Baby, you marry me, and I could be the chair of the African American Studies Program!

Baby, you marry me, and I could be the chair of the African American Studies Program

Awesomeness courtesy of Fuhbuhduh. The names have been changes to protect the innocent.

T-bubbles has noticed many black women zealously supporting Gates and
finds it dreadfully painful that this man, this scholar of all things
African American, could not manage to find love with a black woman.
Although I will continue to defend the black man’s freedoms because my
love for the black man is as natural as breathing, I can’t help but
wonder…who will come to the aid of the black woman?

Yesterday at 7:41pm · Comment · LikeUnlike
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(AG)
I wish I could like this multiple times, or possibly even love it. May
this serve as a powerful message to all of the lost HLS black men who
shall remain nameless.
Yesterday at 7:44pm

(B-Eazy)
Thanks! Will let you all know when I’m found. Can’t speak for the rest
of the lost HLS black men. You can name us. I don’t hide. But rest
assured. My mother is a black woman. My grandmother is a black woman.
My daughters, will be black women (even if mixed). Who will come to
their aid? The same lost black men you demean today. who will come to
your… Read More daughters aid? To your aid? This lost black man
will. Because I am proud to be black, and I will always fight
tirelessly against racism and division. I thank you, (T-Bubbles), for your
support of Professor Gates despite his choice of spouse.
Yesterday at 8:10pm

(J-Beezy)
Can’t help who you love. Works out that way whether the consequences
are good, bad, or benign.
Yesterday at 8:32pm

(T-dub)
the devil
Yesterday at 8:43pm

(Richy Rich)
What B-Eazy said
Yesterday at 8:44pm

(B-Eazy)
Unreal. If I didn’t know any better, I’d think certain people thought
the injustice here was who he happened to fall in love with, rather
than the fact that this man was profiled, harassed, and humiliated in
his own house because he was black. That is what happened here. That
is the injustice. White wife, black wife, asian wife, hispanic wife,
save it for another day. Is it really less of an outrage
because his wife isn’t black? Professor Gates is an accomplished black
man who was subjected to horrible, racist treatment by the cops who
have sworn to protect him as a citizen of cambridge. I would plead
with the educated to focus on the true issue here. Direct this hatred
and disgust toward the treatment of this black man, not his personal
life choices.
Yesterday at 9:28pm

(Chuck)
It’s just kind of odd though, to be presented as such an accomplished
man, in a field that he studies and loves, but is not reflected in his
personal life.
Yesterday at 9:31pm

(T-Bubbles)
B-Eazy, I feel neither hatred nor disgust towards black men. I love
you guys and I feel the full weight of the injustice that was done by
the Cambridge police. But at the same time, some days it is painful to
be a black woman and to feel like we’re nobody’s treasure, nobody’s
dream. My comments come from a place of pain and not anger.
Yesterday at 9:37pm

(AG)
I, Chuck, do find that particularly odd. However, I, like (T-Bubbles),
also support Dr. Gates in his mission to protest against unwarranted
arrests regardless of his choice of spouse.

Furthermore, I wouldn’t expect anything else from the black men of HLS
but a statement similar to that put forth by Mr. Eazy and
co-signed by Mr. Richy Rich My daughters and I would
perish waiting for a so-called “educated” black man to “come to our
aid” in any capacity. Clearly you are very proud to be a black man
which, I suppose, is why you have opted to date a woman who is not a
reflection of yourself. Actions speak louder than words. While you
proclaim that you are proud and that you would come to the aid of a
black woman, isn’t it odd that, although many of us walk the campus of
HLS, beautiful and educated in all our glory, you found none of us
suitable as a partner with whom you could share your heart, your mind,
your body, your soul. Amazing.
Yesterday at 9:38pm

(AG)
J-Beezy– you make a good point when you say that you can not help who you
love. I agree entirely, but, as the saying goes- “Just because I love
you- and you love me- that doesn’t mean we’re meant to be.” I believe
that, when it comes to finding a life partner, too much emphasis is
placed on “love.” The most successful relationships are based on a …
combination of love and practical decision-making. The
preservation of one’s culture and the strenghtening of one’s racial
and ethnic community is a factor that I, for one, think is worth
considering when selecting a spouse.
Yesterday at 9:40pm

(B-Eazy)
I truly do hope that you, Miss (AG), find not only the black man you
seek, but find someone who matches the hatred you have in your heart.
Date a woman who is not a reflection of myself? I guess I could not
date someone like you. I personally pride myself in not being a
racist, not being a bigot, and not being militant. White or black, I’m
not down… Read More with that. Tell me, since you are so willing to
attack me and those like me, are you actually trying to date me? Marry
me? If not, then what gives you the right to attack me? Share my
heart, body, mind, and soul? With a bigot?

T-Bubbles, I feel you. And I appreciate and with all my heart I am sorry
for your pain and will pray for your healing and for the man that will
come and sweep you off your feet and treat you like you should be
treated. Some of you question my commitment to the advancement of my
race, go ahead. Whether you like it or not, I stand on your side. You
can spit in my face, but I will reach out my hand to help in a minute.
Yesterday at 9:48pm

(B-Eazy)
I do not pretend to know what its like to be a black woman today. That
is why I would love to sit down with you T-bubbles and have a respectful,
reasonable conversation so that we may learn from each other. That in
my daily life I may have a greater understanding of where you are
coming from and how I can help, despite apparently being a man who has
shamed his people.

However, others must understand that hate gets you nowhere, regardless
the color of your skin. I choose not to think that one, two, ten, or
100 blacks can speak for the entire race. However, I will not stand
for wrong despite nasty comments. Wrong is wrong. God made us all in
his image. Man created “race”. We are all beautiful. Every last one of
us. Some people should do good to remember that.

But as for you T-Bubbles, thank you for your clarification, and I see
what you mean now and I look forward to talking with you whenever
you’d like. We are both god’s children, we are both proud,
accomplished african-americans. I choose
Yesterday at 9:53pm

(B-Eazy)
To believe we all have more in common than not, and our destinies too
intertwined to pick at each other. Best, B-Eazy
Yesterday at 9:54pm

(AG)
First, I am not a racist or a bigot, and I have absolutely no hatred
in my heart. There is no room for hatred in my heart, as it is
overflowing with disappointment. I responded to your comment, which
was clearly directed at my statement that men such as yourself are
lost. Clearly you are angry at me for pointing out something of which
you should have already been aware. Furthermore, I am not
trying to date you, marry you- but even if I was, any attempt to do so
would have been futile, as you have clearly indicated your preference,
as evidenced by your facebook picture. How sweet.

I am a strong, educated, FEARLESS black woman the likes of which, I am
sure, makes men such as yourself cringe. Don’t label me a racist
because my opinion is controversial. I have every right to express
myself and, as a woman seeking love and respect from a group of men
who she was raised to love and honor but who, apparently, are
incapable of reciprocating those sentiments, I have every right to be
angry.
Yesterday at 10:01pm

(Chuck)
I think we got off course – the point is the man in charge of African
American Studies department is a fake.
Yesterday at 10:01pm

(B-Eazy)
Clearly indicated my preference by putting a picture up of my
girlfriend and myself? Do you ever find it hard not to choke on your
bullshit? Me not being interested in people like you has nothing to do
with the outside. It’s about the inside.

You make me cringe? Ms. AG, you can’t even make me blink. I do not
know why I waste my time even responding to your slander. I’m a
strong, educated FEARLESS black man, the likes of which you were
apparently raised to love. If you must blame someone, blame my STRONG,
EDUCATED, FEARLESS BLACK MOTHER who raised me to love, period and seek
to do the greatest possible good, regardless who I end up with.

I’m labeling you a racist because you are spewing racist crap
everywhere. You do have every right to express yourself. But I have
every right to defend MYSELF, and call you on it…. Read More

And apparently, you are labeling every single black man out there as
incapable of loving you because you are black? COME ON. Be angry. See
where it gets you.
Yesterday at 10:07pm

(AG)
Mr. Chuck clearly Mr. Eazy had something on his mind that has
been bothering him for quite sometime. Rather than handling the
situation like a man by sitting down and having a discussion with me,
he chose to remove me from his facebook friend list (yes. he did), and
hash out our differences via a mutual friend’s facebook status. I’m
just glad T-Bubbles could provide a forum for him to express himself.
Hopefully he feels better now.
Yesterday at 10:07pm

(AG)
Mr.Eazy, I have no doubt that you and I will find ourselves at
the same ultimate destination- in the loving arms of a caucasian
spouse. I enjoyed our discussion. Good night.
Yesterday at 10:09pm

(B-Eazy)
“I wish I could like this multiple times, or possibly even love it.
May this serve as a powerful message to all of the lost HLS black men
who shall remain nameless.”-AG.

First comment in response to T-Bubbles’s post. It’s not me that has had
anything bothering me. Not me that needed a forum. It was you. Not me
that first called anyone out. That was you.

Be a man and sit down? You are out of your mind. What, you want to get
coffee in a few weeks with me? That’s what you wanna do? Don’t worry,
I’ll get it black. … Read More

De-friend you? Why the hell am I gonna be fbook friends with someone
who hates what I do with my life? My bad if i got sick of your racist
statuses.

There’s no hashing out these differences. I just hope every non-black
person you actually are friends with sees the stuff you are spewing
here tonight. And I hope you don’t plan on keeping those friends much
longer.
Yesterday at 10:12pm

(AG)
First, I have no friends- only acquaintances sir. Second, anyone who
is so closed-minded and afraid to hear a somewhat controversial
opinion and who has not learned through personal interaction that I am
absolutely, positively NOT a racist can cease to be friends with me if
they so choose. Quite frankly- I don’t need ’em.

You are lost, and it’s so sad. But you are who you are. And who you
are is somebody I do not wish to know.
Yesterday at 10:18pm

(B-Eazy)
Get over yourself. I know my life is ending tonight that Ms. A “I
have no friends-only acquaintances” G does not wish to know me. I
appreciate your pity, and wish I could reciprocate. All I can do from
my pit of despair however, is laugh at the ridiculousness. Happy
hating, ms. G.
Yesterday at 10:20pm

(AG)
Thank you- not only for wishing me well, but for showing that, when
all else fails, you result to labeling what you are too simple to
understand as “ridiculous.” Mr. Yale. Mr. Harvard Law. Pay close
attention America- this is the educated black man.

Good night. Again.
Yesterday at 10:24pm

(B-Eazy)
You know me, simple country boy with no education and no sense. Can’t
even put sentences together.

Do pay close attention, America. I guarantee you are all paying such
close attention to the thoughts of Ms. (AG) on facebook.

You demean what you claim to love, the “educated black man”. You have
a really funny way of showing it.

Goodnight!
Yesterday at 10:27pm

(Bobby Knuckles)
wow, just seeing all of this. what a monumental waste of time.
B-Eazy, remember what jay-z said about arguing with fools? don’t
waste anymore time on this, my man.
Yesterday at 10:40pm

(Chuck)
This kind of hit the fan, I feel like Gates isn’t going to be the only
drama up at Harvard this year!
Yesterday at 10:41pm

(AG)
Mr. Knuckles- do you remember what whoever raised you said about minding
your business and not judging people, especially those who you do not
know?

My man.
Yesterday at 10:49pm

(Bobby Knuckles)
you can call me bobby, and i was raised by wolves. i’ll give you the
cold honest truth here: you haven’t found love with a black man, not
because there’s a mass conspiracy orchestrated by the christina
aguileras of the world, but because you’re appearing to be a miserable
person and bitter as shit. try a little introspection before you point
all these fingers.
Yesterday at 11:01pm

(AG)
See, Bobby, IF you knew me (hint hint), you would know that all this
“bitter and miserable as shit”-ness that I exhibit is the RESULT OF,
rather than the cause of, how I and many other similarly situated
black women have been treated by black men.

Now, as I did Mr. Eazy, I will wish you a good night.
Yesterday at 11:08pm

(J-Beezy)
(AG), on your comments about love not being enough to sustain a
relationship with a life partner, you have the research on your side,
according to something interesting I read from Reuters the other day:
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSSP483675. “In love?
It’s not enough to keep a marriage, study finds”
11 hours ago

(B-Eazy)
This link says nothing about race. Love may not be enough, but neither
is race. I agree with Ms. AG that love may not always be enough.
But I disagree with any implication that race is.
12 minutes ago

(J-Beezy)
I didn’t imply that race was enough. Or at least, I didn’t mean to
imply that. Wasn’t my intention. I only intended to respond to
AG‘s comment to me: “I believe that, when it comes to finding a
life partner, too much emphasis is placed on ‘love.'” I happened to
read that article the other day, and I thought it was relevant to the
point she was making. I brought it up because, as
something of a romantic, I would’ve been more inclined to debate the
point about whether love is enough (and argued in favor of love often
being enough) if I had not recently read about that study. That’s the
only reason I posted it. I thought it fit into this conversation’s
subplot about what makes a good relationship, but I wasn’t suggesting
that I was gung-ho behind any of the factors mentioned in the study as
the key to successful relationships. Merely agreeing with AG that
it seems love is not always enough to make a relationship last. I
think that means I agree with you on that point too, B-EAzy.
6 minutes ago

B-Eazy
Ok, thanks for the clarification, J-Beezy. I do think that the article is
compelling and what we see in the movies and hear in the radio makes
us believe something that unfortunately probably isn’t true. In the
context of the previous conversation, I thought you meant to imply
other things. Thanks for the follow up. Good post. Solid article.

So…. Good and heated, just the way I like my interracial dating convos. What do y’all think? Is B-Eazy a self-hating sellout? And by that justification is Skip Gates too? Are these guys the reason the educated AG’s of the world can’t find love? Or is AG’s chip on her shoulder her own worst enemy? (From my perspective, I do think the “I have no friends, only acquaintances” comment speaks volumes about an inability to form close relationships) Does IR dating really get people that upset? Why? And what about the double standard when black women date white guys? I mean half the time I post anything about relationship difficulties, at least a couple black women make it known that they have options outside the race. And everyone seems cool with that. Discuss

But would we get anywhere near as upset about this?

But would we get anywhere near as upset about this?

Comments
  1. 05girl says:

    I cannot believe the pointless discussion went on for so long. It’s funny where you can see each trying to get the last word in (around 10:25).

    First off, I don’t completely understand the original statement/question of who will come to our aid? Do black women really need saving? Last I checked we as a group are doing okay for ourselves. If anything it’s the black men that need saving. I think she is asking “if black men won’t support us, then who will?”

    IMO I don’t think of him as a sellout. I really never think of any person as a “sellout” when it comes to race relations. B Eazy sounds like he made his choice based on what’s on the inside. Can we really be mad at him for that? I can understand why folks would rather date within their own race (I surely prefer that), but I just cannot get worked up over folks who do not.

  2. *shrugs*

    This is the guy that chortled with glee as he found out that he was only 44% black.

    Is anyone really surprised his wife is white?

    It’s very typical of his class/education of men.

    Why is anyone surprised….

  3. Sula says:

    Surely, you’re jesting… Are people really correlating those two events? What do those two events even have to do with one another?

    Can we for ONCE focus on the issue at hand?

    And regarding the “being saved by …” fill in the blank; I, a very black woman, will be saved by the people (men and women) I choose to put in my life if and when I need saving. It’s the choices I make that will provide me with the support I need… But a more pressing question is this: What does that even have to do with being wrongfully arrested by the police?

    I don’t know, I might be confused… I couldn’t even read through the whole thing. Are people SERIOUS?

    • Anna says:

      Ms. Sula – I feel you on this one, lady. As usual, you have an uncanny knack of revealing what *should be* obvious.

  4. my question is, where was that white woman when he was in cuffs LOL

  5. Anna says:

    Ok, BSR – even though these two subjects have as much in common as pigs and peanut butter, I’ll give you my 2 cents on the thread. Especially since you got me to read the whole dang thing…..

    I think that Brandon is you. I’m not mad at you, bruh. You have to do you, no matter what. Good people are not as easy to come by as one would think. If you (or anyone else, for that matter) have a good person in your life that you’re compatible with you would be a highly educated fool to pass them by. If it’s not you please take this as an official “my bad”.

    Maybe AG is just a little loca en la cabeza. Maybe not and you just caught her on a bad night. She certainly seems very hurt. Either way, it was T-Bubbles that articulated what many (not all) Black women feel:

    “some days it is painful to be a black woman and to feel like we’re nobody’s treasure, nobody’s dream.” – That shit is some real talk for you.

    I can honestly tell you that I’ve never been so “invisible” as at an upscale club with my red-headed white girlfriend. Literally – several Black men (seperate occassions) coming to our table or bar stool, standing in between us, turning their backs to me and *poof* – I disappear. Not to toot my own horn, but I’m not hard on the eyes. I clean up well. Certainly have a nice enough figure (especially in my younger years) to garner plenty of attention. And…I’m nice. I smile easily. Many times my smile would still be semi-frozen on my face as 2 guys would come over – and both would fight each other trying to talk to slightly homely Kristen. The one White guys frequently passed over and never felt “pretty”. The attention from these guys was a much-needed ego stroke for her, but she also got us into some ugly situations. Having a Black friend in a Black club is not license to act a fool and think you have a bodyguard. You can sop up the brothas and ice grill the Black women if you want to – but don’t look at me when the mob starts closing in. Seriously, my last fight was some pigtail pulling in the fifth grade. I.Can’t.Help.You.

    Where do these feelings come from? You could write a loooong paper and still not cover it all. But it’s foolish to pretend that they’re not valid. You can’t discount a Black woman’s feelings about BM/WW anymore than you can discount any Black person’s feelings on race. They are tied too closely to personal experience. And, in some cases, just good ole bullshit. Some Black women are trying to justify shitty personalities and lack of a (wanted) man behind the “All the Black men are with White women, in jail, or gay!” excuse. Some Black men want nothing to do with any Black woman and hide behind a “colorblind” excuse.

    Personally, I am grateful to have been blessed with a man who sees me as his treasure. Who appreciates my chocolate skin. Who plays in my kinks and rubs my tummy. Who feels he is lucky to be with me. Every woman deserves to look at herself and love what she sees in the mirror, and to have her self-worth taken seriously by the world outside of her mirror. But many Black women are told in subtle and not-so-subtle ways that we are not worth what the White woman is. Many times just when we think we’re getting somewhere we get reminded of our “place” – much like Mr. Gates was reminded of his.

    • LMFAO. Hilarious, Anna. While I can understand where the similarities might be, let me assure you, I would never stoop to attending that little grade-inflating liberal arts college up the street.

  6. miko says:

    “But many Black women are told in subtle and not-so-subtle ways that we are not worth what the White woman is. Many times just when we think we’re getting somewhere we get reminded of our “place” – much like Mr. Gates was reminded of his.”

    i was watching Diddy’s terrible new reality show last night and I noticed that they edited the show to make you feel SO BADLY for the pretty white girl who played the drums but couldn’t really find her “soul” or whatever. it was all so cliched. and its always the same story. poor white girl. you too pretty and white to get left back!

    the message is always trying to be subtle but never really is.

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